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Lunch features a topic to chew on


It was billed as an intellectual lunch, but the topic -- grade inflation -- was loaded enough to make for a full-course meal. The lunch ended with some tough questions left to chew.

On one end of the rhetorical table was Boone Turchi, an economics professor who argued that grade inflation is a serious problem that requires prompt attention. Turchi defended the conclusions of a report prepared by the Faculty Council's Educational Policy Committee.

On the opposite end of the debate was Ed Neal, the director of faculty development at the University's Center for Teaching and Learning.

Neal scoffs at the idea that grades, once upon a time, accounted for something more meaningful and true than they do now. Such talk, he said, was analogous to people talking about the good old days when a dollar was worth a dollar. But there has never been a "gold standard" of grades, Neal said. Grades are not like currency that can be precisely measured.

"Grades have never reflected a standard measurement of anything," Neal said.

And studies show that the grade point averages that undergraduates carry when they leave the University are not predictors of how far they will go in life.

Caught in the middle of the debate were Annie Peirce and Michael Hoffman, two undergraduate students who said they feared their careers could get caught in the fix.

Hoffman fears that adjusting the average grade point average downward from 3 to 2.7 would damage a student's ability to get admitted to a graduate school or get a job. Hoffman also feared that a tougher grading policy would create cut-throat competition that would pit student against student and students against faculty.

Hoffman said the controversy over grade inflation at the University already has generated bad press, and he is concerned that the controversy could damage the University's national reputation.

Peirce, on the other hand, agreed that grade inflation is a problem but argued that the University lacks the national stature to lead a national effort to correct it. Peirce worries that tougher grading would force many students to give up their involvement in other activities such as athletics and clubs. She argued that the University seeks to create a well-rounded person and such a person isn't developed by just studying books.

Turchi responded to the students point by point.

First, he said, there may be a misconception that graduate schools and employers look blindly at grade point averages while considering nothing else. They consider the quality of the institution a person graduates from along with a host of other factors.

Turchi also rejected Peirce's assertion that Carolina lacks the prominence to lead a national effort to end grade inflation. Former Chancellor Michael Hooker, before he died, talked about leading a consortium to develop rigorous, well-defined grading standards that could be made into a national standard. It could still be done, Turchi said.

Turchi also dismissed the notion that making grades more realistic would harm relationships between and among students and faculty. To the contrary, Turchi said, there could be more mutual respect between students and faculty by erasing the cynicism of knowing too many students are getting grades that they have not really earned.

Turchi said the committee is not asking that a quota be set limiting the number of high grades, nor is it requiring that every class have an even distribution of grades. Instead, it is asking that departments do a better job of regulating professors who habitually grade too high, recognizing that all professors will have some classes where there will be aberrations of higher grades.

From 1987 to 1998, the percentage of A's received by undergraduate students increased from 23.4 to 38.

Ed Carlstein, a professor and director of undergraduate education in the statistics department, said the increase of A's over such a short period of time was unrealistic and that something has to be done to correct it. If the trend continues, the point will be reached where nearly everyone gets an A.

But Abigail Panter, an associate professor of psychology, said she is not yet convinced that the higher number of A's and B's is unrealistic. Panter said she would like to see data from other universities before she makes up her mind.

Both Neal and Turchi ended the discussion as firmly rooted in their convictions as when it began.

Said Turchi: "Ed doesn't see much use for grades at all. He doesn't see much of a problem. We just disagree altogether."

Neal, in his ending remarks, quoted what Benjamin Bloom has to say about grading on a curve. Said Bloom: "The normal curve is a distribution most appropriate to chance and random activity. Education is a purposeful activity and we seek to have students learn what we would teach. Therefore, if we are effective, the distribution of grades will be anything but a normal curve. In fact, a normal curve is evidence of our failure to teach."


Other lunch discussions

The grade inflation debate was the first

in a Lunch Discussion Series sponsored

by the Intellectual Climate Implementation Committee and the Office of the Director of Distinguished Scholarships and Intellectual Life.

All faculty, staff and students can take part in the series, which will be held the fourth Friday of each month through May in Room 210

of the student union from noon to 1:30 p.m. Coffee, lemonade and light snacks will be

provided. Attendees are welcome to bring lunch.

Remaining discussions:

* March 24: "Faculty, staff, and student

collaboration: Whose intellectual climate is it?" Jeffery Beam, botany library.

* April 28: "Student satisfaction and our campus budget: Tying the intellectual climate

to UNC General Administration's assessment goals." Abigail Panter, psychology.

* May 26: "Computers enhance the intellectual climate? Not a chance!" Celia Hooper, Division of Speech and Hearing Sciences, allied health sciences.

For more information, contact Libby Evans at 2-6344 or evans@unc.edu

Scholarly Communication Working Group

Faculty, staff and students also can take part in Scholarly Communication Working Group discussions at noon in the second-floor

conference room in Davis Library.

Upcoming programs:

* March 14: "Distance Learning in the UNC System." Diana Oblinger, UNC General Administration.

* April 11: "Digital Library Projects

at UNC-CH."

For more information, contact Carolyn Kotlas at 2-9287 or kotlas@email.unc.edu or see http://ils.unc.edu/schol-com/programs.html


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